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The Mystical Roots of Psychedelics: Exploring Dreams and the Liminal State

December 20, 2024
Featuring: Shauheen Etminan, Ph.D.

What can we learn from the mystical roots of psychedelics? And what can we learn from dreams?

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What can we learn from the mystical roots of psychedelics? And what can we learn from dreams?

In this episode, Joe interviews Shauheen Etminan, Ph.D.: co-founder of VCENNA, a drug discovery and development company, and Magi Ancestral Supplements, which sells nootropics inspired by ancient Eastern traditions.

He discusses his journey into the world of plant extraction, how he first discovered compounds like Haoma and Harmaline, and why he decided to bring Iranian tradition to the psychedelic renaissance. He explores the similarities between psychedelics and experiences found in mystical traditions, and how that historical context can inform modern psychedelic practice. He sees this exemplified most with dream recollection, attending to the emotions found within dreams, and the concept of wakeful dreaming, where one can access unconscious insights consciously, through the liminal (or hypnagogic) state between dreaming and wakefulness. 

He discusses:

  • Zoroastrianism and how the teachings of Zarathustra on understanding morality have inspired him
  • Syrian Rue in Iranian culture, and how it compares to the Banisteriopsis Caapi vine: Is it actually stronger than ayahuasca?
  • Henry Corbin’s practice of embodied imagination and Jung’s concept of active imagination
  • Other less-discussed compounds he’s interested in, like Ephedra and Saffron

and more!

Links

Vcenna.com

Ancestralmagi.com

Ancestral Magi linktree

PT465 – Beta-carbolines, Haoma, and Syrian Rue: Rediscovering Ancestral Knowledge, featuring: Shauheen Etminan, Ph.D. & Jonathan Lu

Haoma and Harmaline: The Botanical Identity of the Indo-iranian Sacred Hallucinogen Somo and Its Legacy in Religion, Language, and Middle Eastern Folklore, by David Stophlet Flattery & Martin Schwartz

Wikipedia.org: Zoroaster

Wikipedia.org: Ephedra

Wikipedia.org: Hypnagogia

Gettherapybirmingham.com: Henry Corbin: Visionary of the Imaginal Realm

Let Your Body Interpret Your Dreams, by Eugene T. Gendlin, Ph.D.

Jungiancenter.org: Jung on Active Imagination: Features, Methods and Warnings

Thealchemistskitchen.com

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Shauheen Etminan

In this Episode

Shauheen Etminan, Ph.D.

Dr. Shauheen Etminan, co-founder of VCENNA and Ancestral Magi, merges ancient Eastern medicine and mysticism with modern science to revolutionize mental health through natural drug discovery. Specializing in phytochemical extraction, the neurochemistry of psychedelics, and ethnopharmacology, Shauheen investigates the pre-Zoroastrian use of psychoactive plants for spiritual journeys, particularly harmala compounds from the sacred plant Espand (AKA Syrian rue), uncovering their psychotherapeutic potentials. With a Ph.D. in chemical engineering and a dedication to the study and practice of Sufi whirling meditation, Shauheen exemplifies a holistic approach to science, spirituality, and wellness.

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