Rebecca Ann Hill and David Jay Brown – Women of Visionary Art and the Need for a Masculine/Feminine Balance


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In this episode, Kyle and Joe host Rebecca Ann Hill and David Jay Brown, Authors of the book, Women of Visionary Art. The book showcases the work and inspiration of female artists such as Josephine Wall, Allison Grey, Amanda Sage, Martina Hoffman, Carolyn Mary Kleefeld and many others.

3 Key Points:

  1. Rebecca Ann Hill and David Jay Brown are co-authors of the book, Women of Visionary Art, which includes discussions with 18 female artists.
  2. The book and the episode are an exploration of the role that dreaming, psychedelic experiences, and mystical visions play in visionary art.
  3. There is a strong need for a balancing of masculine and feminine energies. Females tend to be more nurturing and more cooperative, and it’s exactly the factors that are missing in our current world and are causing problems of greed.

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Show Notes

About David

  • David’s background is in Psychobiology, the interface between psychology and biology
  • He spent 10-15 years working in neuroscience and research labs
    • His interest in Neuroscience came from his experience as a teenager, experimenting with psychedelics
  • He wrote his first book, The Science of Psychedelics, about 10 years ago
  • David mentions that the psychedelic renaissance has allowed him to write openly about psychedelic topics that he’s been preparing his whole life researching for

About Rebecca

  • aka Molly Moon Sparkles
  • She has a huge creative drive
  • She is currently studying psychology and is playing in the art program
  • She is fascinated by entheogens, plant medicines and psychedelic compounds
  • She is a painter and is working on the Molly Moon Magick Series that focuses on the divine feminine
  • She wrote and illustrated the book Ecstatic Love, Lost Dreams and Mystic Visions

Psychedelics and Creativity

Putting the Book Together

  • David was so fascinated with the visions he would see on psychedelics and wished that he had the talent to portray it through artwork, and then he began to see artists bring these visions to life
  • He also saw a lot of gender inequality, that there were more men than women in the visionary art space
    • It urged him to highlight the under recognized women in visionary art
  • Rebecca was experimenting with other realms with plant medicines and psychedelic compounds
    • She says her consciousness was so drastically different from any other time in her life, and she started painting her psychedelic experiences
    • This led her to begin building community with other artists who shared the same ‘vision’ as her
    • She said that the psychedelic experience has so much feminine nature to it that wasn’t being voiced
    • “We are going through a serious ecological crisis right now and the teachings behind the psychedelic experience is to heal the collective and help climate change” – Rebecca
  • Stanley Krippner conducted a survey of artists and psychedelics

The Imbalance of Masculine and Feminine

  • There is an uprising of feminism with the “Me Too” movement, women in congress, women’s marches
  • Our species has been so dominated by men and we need the nurturing and caring aspects of the feminine perspective

Surprising Aspects of the Women

  • The most surprising aspect is how much in common the women had
  • David says it was beautiful how well each artist was connected to each other through their stories
  • Laura Holden is completely self taught
  • There were two women from the book that had never touched a psychedelic substance
    • They were inspired through dreams and daydreams
  • The psychedelic experience not only inspires the artwork, but it creates a new way of viewing artwork
  • Kyle mentions that he always wished he could record his dreams
    • Joe says he has been seeing research around capturing visual or imagined imagery

Discovering the Artists

  • David discovered most of the artists that he had not previously known through the community Rebecca had been a part of as visionary artists

COSM and Entheon

  • August 3rd, Rebecca and David are giving a presentation as COSM in New York
  • Entheon, the Sanctuary for Visual art may be open by them
    • Entheon will have workshops, painting classes, rooms to stay in, full moon ceremonies, etc.
    • It will be an art sanctuary, a church with a spiritual and psychedelic essence
  • Visionary art is getting into museums and becoming a recognized art form

The Desperate Need for Balance

  • Terrence McKenna told David that early on in human civilization, men didn’t understand the role that sex had in creating babies
    • The power of reproduction was within women and sex was something else
    • Once men began thinking that they were responsible for the generation of life, they starting saying its “my baby” its “my wife” instead of ‘our’ baby or the community’s baby. It kept developing into “my child” into “my country”, “MY”.
    • Then people started using less psychedelics and started consuming more alcohol and now everything is an over exaggerated male dominance
    • “Females tend to be more nurturing and more cooperative, and it’s exactly the factors that are missing in our current world and are causing problems of greed. It could be balanced and harmonized with more feminine energy.” – David
  • There is a crucial imbalance from male and female in history alone
    • But more than an imbalance between just males and females, it’s about an imbalance of masculine and feminine energies
    • Each of us, male and females have both a masculine and feminine energy
    • We can see the masculine and feminine imbalance in the world and our planet right now. We don’t need to shift to a goddess worshiping planet, but we just need to be back in balance and bring more feminine energy of nurturing and compassion and caring and healing
  • Penny (an artist highlighted in the book) mentions about Sandos giving LSD to researchers who gave it to artists

Getting Involved

  • “If you want to get involved in painting, dancing, making jewelry, clothing, gardening, don’t wait. Do it. If you are true to yourself and your own inner visions, you will succeed” – Rebecca
  • One thing all artists have in common is fear and insecurity, so you can’t let it hinder you from beginning

Final Thoughts

  • Artists like Android Jones are doing visionary artwork in virtual reality mediums
  • David thinks visionary artwork will become only even more interactive and immersive spaces
  • We need to find a more yin-yang balance between masculine and feminine

Links

Women of Visionary Art (Amazon)
Women of Visionary Art (Inner Traditions)
David’s Site
Rebecca’s Site
MollyMoonSparkle blog


About Rebecca

Rebecca Ann Hill (AKA Molly Moon Sparkle), is a visual artist with a wide range of experience in different creative mediums. She is the co-author and illustrator of “Ecstatic Love, Lost Dreams & Mystic Visions”, as well as “Women of Visionary Art.” Primarily a painter, she is creating a new series entitled “Molly Moon Magick,” and her other projects include dancing with “Gold Town Burlesque,” writing a blog -“Go Ask Molly”- and working on a new book about her spiritual awakening.

About David

David Jay Brown is the author of Dreaming Wide Awake: Lucid Dreaming, Shamanic Healing and Psychedelics, and The New Science of Psychedelics: At the Nexus of Culture, Consciousness, and Spirituality. He is also the coauthor of five other bestselling volumes of interviews with leading-edge thinkers, Mavericks of the Mind, Voices from the Edge, Conversations on the Edge of the Apocalypse, Mavericks of Medicine, Frontiers of Psychedelic Consciousness, and of Women of Visionary Art. Additionally, Brown is the author of two science fiction novels,Brainchild and Virus, and he is the coauthor of the health science book Detox with Oral Chelation. Brown holds a master’s degree in psychobiology from New York University, and was responsible for the California-based research in two of British biologist Rupert Sheldrake’s books on unexplained phenomena in science: Dogs That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Home and The Sense of Being Stared At. His work has appeared in numerous magazines, including Wired, Discover, and Scientific American, and he was the Senior Editor of the special edition, themed MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies) Bulletins from 2007 to 2012. In 2011, 2012, and 2013 Brown was voted “Best Writer” in the annual Good Times and Santa Cruz Weekly’s “Best of Santa Cruz” polls, and his news stories have been picked up by The Huffington Post and CBS News.